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« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2008, 11:38PM »

Oh, Yeah it counts. I saw the Celtic Tenors sing it this past summer
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« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2008, 01:40AM »

A bit different from the average rebel song, but I think I'd have to pick "Fields of Athenry" Tongue It counts, right? Tongue It's so terribly tragic.

Although Fields of Athenry is about a young man who was deported for stealing corn to feed his family during the Famine, I regard it more as a lament than a rebel song.

I think of a rebel song as a battle cry, meant to stir the blood.....it tells of heroes, heroic deeds, oppression, tyranny, battles won or tragic losses.

I learned rebel songs as a child, I have heard them all my life. Most of the songs at family gatherings were of rebellion and National heroes.

There is a good friend of mine, a brilliant musician and singer from Dublin, who will not sing rebel songs unless he knows he has the right audience for them. In other words, he would not want to offend or shock anyone. Only when he knows his audience and has people from Ireland there will he sing them.

He is right to be cautious......you never know who is in the audience, and quite frankly you can run into trouble if you sing the right song in the wrong place.

Jim, I know Cork claims the nickname "Rebel County" but in fact it was not the only Rebel County!  Wink
BTW, the Clancy Brothers are from Carrick on Suir, Tipperary.

The most famous and best Rebel Songs are the following:

Amhrán na bhFiann (the National Anthem)
Kevin Barry
Boolavogue
A Nation Once Again (This is the theme song of our Irish Club)
James Connolly
Four Green Fields
Come out you black and tans
Roddy McCorley
Padraic Pearse
Foggy Dew
Rising of the moon
Tipperary so far away
Grace
Shall my soul pass through old Ireland?
Slievenamon
Bold Robert Emmet
Óro Sé Do Bheatha Abhaile
Sean South of Garryowen
Merry Ploughboy
The West's awake
The Wind that shakes the barley


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« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2008, 02:01AM »

Maggie, if you had a daughter instead of a son we would be related.  Cheesy
You did miss my favs though. "the long road", and "the broad black brimmer"
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« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2008, 02:12AM »

Although Fields of Athenry is about a young man who was deported for stealing corn to feed his family during the Famine, I regard it more as a lament than a rebel song.

I think of a rebel song as a battle cry, meant to stir the blood.....it tells of heroes, heroic deeds, battles won or tragic losses.

I agree completely. But, there's way too many good real rebel songs.. I couldn't pick! So I cheated Wink Cheesy

But you got most of my favorites Grin
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« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2008, 01:42PM »

Maggie, if you had a daughter instead of a son we would be related.  Cheesy
You did miss my favs though. "the long road", and "the broad black brimmer"

Do you mean "On the one Road" by the Wolfe Tones?
If so, I think of that more of a "peace" song than a rebel song:

"We're on the one road
Sharing the one load
We're on the road to God knows where
We're on the one road
It may be the wrong road
But we're together now who cares
North men, South men, comrades all
Dublin, Belfast, Cork and Donegal
We're on the one road swinging along
Singing a soldier's song

Though we've had our troubles now and then
Now is the time to make them up again
Sure aren't we all Irish anyhow
Now is the time to step together now."


As for the Broad Black Brimmer, I never liked that song.
Don't know why, as I had family members who wore that uniform.

I cringe when they get to the line:
"And a holster that's been empty many a day (but not for long)".

Maybe it's my experiences in England, seeing two little children and their mother in the wreckage of a Provisional IRA bomb.
Seeing soldiers and their horses lying in bits in Hyde Park, London........

I regard the old IRB and IRA of the War of Independence as Rebels with a cause, just as were the men who fought in the American Revolution.

However, the Groups in Northern Ireland, funded mostly from the USA and the Middle East, did not involve men of the same calibre. I wish they had called themselves by a different name other than the Provisional IRA, the "Real" IRA, the "Continuity" IRA, but of course they wanted to appeal to the sentimental Nationalist spirit of those sending them money, whose grandfathers had told them stories of the true heroes of 1916.

I saw what that money did, and it was ugly.

Neither do I condone what the British Army did there, especially on Bloody Sunday.

I had cousins, working in London, who were automatically taken for questioning every time the Provisional IRA exploded a bomb in London.
One especially, who had no terrorist connections at all, took a philosophical view and said he was "Guilty of having an Irish accent, and having the map of Ireland all over me face".
However, he worked in London long enough to qualify for a State Pension.
Last time I saw him at home in Tipperary, he was laughing, "The Queen sends me a few pounds every week, and says she's sorry for the trouble!"

So anyway....bottom line.....I regard the songs prior to 1948 as Rebel Songs.

Some of the songs about the Troubles in Northern Ireland are clever, such as "The Men behind the Wire" and "the Helicopter Song", but they don't have anywhere near the same meaning for me.

Most people in Ireland just want to move on from the Troubles, remember the heroes, learn from the events, but forget the bitterness.
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« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2008, 06:42PM »

Maggie, I remember many of the ones you listed and yes I know there were freedom fighters from all of the counties and I was not forgetting them. Brave men and women, one and all.

Now there is Johnson's Motor car that I like.

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« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2008, 12:24PM »

There's a new video of the week up on their site.. of the song Ar Éireann Ní Neossainn Cé hí (In Ireland Where Can My Love Be?)

http://www.thehighkings.com/vidweek.html
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« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2008, 05:01PM »

Does anyone know of any info on PBS's web site? I can't find anything! (refering to times/dates exc.)
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« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2008, 05:13PM »

It is too far out for us in Arizona. Maybe 1-2 months out they start carrying things on their sites.

Jim
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« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2008, 06:13PM »

Does anyone know of any info on PBS's web site? I can't find anything! (refering to times/dates exc.)

I've been in contact with several pbs stations, but so far I've just been told "no plans in the immediate future, but your interest will be passed on to the programming department.
I think you may be right Jim, it may be a little early for them to know. 
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« Reply #70 on: February 21, 2008, 04:06PM »

The High Kings will be performing at the France-Merrick Performing Arts Center (aka Hippodrome Theatre) in Baltimore on Tuesday, May 20, 2008.  It appears to be sponsored by MPT.

Also Amazon is taking advanced orders for the Dublin DVD to be released on the 26th of February for $17.09

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« Reply #71 on: February 21, 2008, 04:27PM »

I preordered my cd from RegoRecords. I can't wait!
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« Reply #72 on: February 21, 2008, 04:59PM »


Also Amazon is taking advanced orders for the Dublin DVD to be released on the 26th of February for $17.09

I pre-ordered the CD and DVD from Rego 3 weeks ago: 

The High Kings -DVD EMD-2134494     REGO LOW PRICE: $16.49
The High Kings CD    -EMD-2134357    REGO LOW PRICE: $14.98

I also ordered a Chieftains CD, shipping for all 3 was only $2.99.
I know Martha and Tom at Rego will make sure I get them for the
release date 26th Feb.

They are great people to deal with.
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« Reply #73 on: February 21, 2008, 06:51PM »

I have also order my copy of the CD as well as the Celtic Thunder CD from Rego and as always a few other CDs and a DVD.  They have always been great to deal with in the past, and still get my business.

          JIM

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« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2008, 08:32PM »

5 more days til the CDs and DVD are released. The first time I ordered from Rego I got my CW dvd the day it was released. Hope that is the same with these.

Jim
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For those who fought for it, Freedom has a taste the protected will never know.

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